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• Juhani Tenhunen (Aalto Media Factory)
• Juha Huuskonen (Open Knowledge Finland)
• Involved in organizing energy Hackathon 2013 and OKfestival 2012
• Interest to rea
• Antti Poikola (Open Knowledge Finland)
• Sami Majaniemi (Apps4Finland)
• Juuso Parkkinen (Aalto)
• PhD Student at Aalto School of Science
• open data activist (e.g. http://louhos.github.io/en/index.html )
• Tarmo Toikkanen (Aalto University, Open Knowledge Finland, OKF Finland Open Education working group, Creative Commons Finland)
• Timo Honkela (Aalto)
• Aalto School of Science, Department of Information and Computer Science, Computational Cognitive Systems research group
• Forrest Oliphant (meemoo noflo mozilla)
• here to spy
• Tuija Sonkkila (Aalto Library Otaniemi and OKFFI Open Science)
• Maria Rehbinder 
• Legal concelling in Aalto, involved in Creative Commons Finland - translating the CC lisences (CC0 and CC 4.0)
• working group of Aalto Open Access Policy (publications + data) - Horizon 2020 requires that 100% financed publications will be published openly
• aaltodoc platform
• Kari-Hans Kommonen
• Aalto ARTS, Arki research group
• http://www.aalto.fi/fi/current/events/infrastructuring_commons/
• http://co-p2p.mlog.taik.fi/seminar-2013/
• Timo Honkela
• Aalto, perhaps HY next year

• curriculum menee umpeen maalis-huhtikuussa

• One thing we decided is to suggest a Open Science Training -course to the Aalto courses ( https://into.aalto.fi/display/enmobility/Aalto+courses  ). The course would be modelled from the OSTI Open Science Training  Initiative which has been developed in Oxford, see the link:  http://opensciencetraining.com/
• As next steps:
• Maria promised to talk about this to Lauri Saarinen (TOST Tutkimuksen ja opetuksen strateginen tuki) this friday
• OKFFI Open Science working group will make a draft course proposal to Juhani and Philip Dean before Christmas
• Notes: discussion with Lauri Saarinen ja Martti Raevaara, pitää varautua tekemään markkinointityötä, kontaktina jatko-opintoseminaarien pitäjät

• Antti will follow up the initiative of the "Valtioneuvoston kanslia"  and suggest Otaniemi as the venue for the big event.

• Open Licenses
• Open Policy
• Open Access publication
• Open Data
• Open Courseware (OCW)
• Open Education (eg. MOOCs)
• Transparency(?)
• Are there any areas of university that would not be open?
• not easy to open: copyrights of music and pictures and films -> there is 

• Mostly tech people particated, even though topic is interesting for all schools
• Not many students (since no credits)
• We should find an easy solution for students to get credits for hackathons etc
• A course/courses in the Aalto University system that allow this to happen

• Prime minister / Valtioneuvoston kanslia is interested in organising an event around open knowledge

• credits for students, the course has to be listed somewhere and someone is responsible
• Apps4Finland hackathon course
• TKK software development 1
• Example: Visiting lecture by Jaakko Rajaniemi in mobile App development in 2011(?)
• Apps4Finland competition
• An Aalto University hackathon for Apps4Finland 2014 is planned
• Mention the possibility to lecturer of Software Development Project course: https://noppa.aalto.fi/noppa/kurssi/T-76.4115
• thesis projects (bachelor, masters)
• Aalto contact persons in the "Avoimen datan oppilaitosverkosto"
• possible names: Eero Hyvönen

• is open access valued (compare to JUFO? list of valued publications)? cultural clash
• include dr Toma Susi (even though he's no longer in Aalto): http://mostlyphysics.wordpress.com/
• https://aaltodoc.aalto.fi/
• Tuija could take forward a idea of clearing the submission form / web interface (see EDIT below)
• 10 minutes to add one publication -> minimum 200 000€ working time to spend
• Make importing information from TKKJULKAISEE fully automatic (now it provided roughly half of the needed info)!
• Find an intern to fill in the form
• integrate with Google Scholar
• EDIT 1.11: from people here at the Library that know much more than I do about Aaltodoc, I just heard that  this has been work in progess for some time now already. So we try our best to enhance the present web form so that manual typing will be reduced to minimum. In other words, the submitting process will hopefully be like the following:
• a) user types in the DOI of the article
• b) under the hood, the system fetches all available metadata from a DOI resolver service and fills respective fields
• c) user checks data and adds missing bits. One thing I forgot to clarify yesterday, was that the to-come CRIS (current research information system) which is an ongoing project at Aalto, should draw the whole picture differently. It will replace all present systems (rather old-fashioned because they ARE old) like TKKjulkaisee and Reseda, and offer much more technically versatile ways (thumbs up!) to present and combine research activities and outputs in Aalto. If you like to know more about this project, the search term in inside.aalto.fi is ACRIS.
• One another thing about Aaltodoc. Although it seems that there are only a handful of articles, there are much more, several thousands in fact (around 6000); it's just that they are buried in the Dissertations section. If/when the publisher has given the permission for the author to save the individual articles of the "nippuväitöskirja" on the local repository, the articles are there too. But here is the caveat: according to the permission, the articles have to be presented in such a way that they are not taken as separate articles (hence their absence from the Articles section of Aaltodoc) but as organic part of the dissertation. Due to some rather rigid technical developments in the then TKK web architecture of the last decade  (I'm referring  to CMS, into which we were forced to import the earlier separate Dissertation pages) added with problems with staff allocation, the Library has had tough times in catching up. To demonstrate my laborious explanation, here are some examples of articles as part of a Dissertation: https://aaltodoc.aalto.fi/handle/123456789/9036  , https://aaltodoc.aalto.fi/handle/123456789/10159 , https://aaltodoc.aalto.fi/handle/123456789/2844
• Aalto University has a fund for gold open access fees, but university should not pay for hybrid journals - paying twice.
• Discussion about blacklisting greedy journals, as well as blacklisting clearly bad journals (plagiarism, etc.)
• Example: http://scholarlyoa.com/publishers/

• Example: Possibility to open a Aalto Open Science Fellowship programme for researchers who wish to do and promote open science (see. http://pantonprinciples.org/panton-fellowships/ )
• Could OKFFI and Aalto collaborate in this ie. developing courses for graduate students (see. http://opensciencetraining.com/ for example ).
• Lauri Saarinen TOST (Tutkimuksen ja opetuksen strateginen tuki)
• Open Science pilot course in MOOC platform (edx.aalto.fi, Tarmo is the contact point)
• Open science and reproducible research teaching material put together by the Open Science working group: https://docs.google.com/folderview?usp=sharing&id=0B-5B9VrRkisPOFhGNk5NQW1HM1U
• Salon/coffeehouse concept: regular  meetups to share work and socialize... beer or coffee, depending on  time. Proper venue? Pechakucha or other lightning talk style, or  informal structure? Plus breakout hands-on or group discusion? All  Aalto. Open  or themed meetups? Students teaching. = A  regular time to socialize and mix ideas.

• http://fi.okfn.org/wg/openscience/   growing networking activity around the theme - what is Aalto's  position  on supporting researchers to make reproducible science by  opening the  research data and source code?
• OKFFI Open Science working group, peer-to-peer network of researchers interested in topic (http://fi.okfn.org/wg/openscience/ )

• OCW is already a bit passè

• Eero Hyvönen, Tomi Kauppinen, Osma Suominen
• Course data is daily updated from Noppa
• Publications and other data is not updated - taken only one time

• Open science ja Open data tulisi saada lobattua sisäänrakennetusti  JUFOon. JUFO ylipainottaa kansallista ja pohjoismaista tutkimusta, joten  esim. Skandinavian-journalit tai jotkin suomenkieliset julkaisukanavat  saavat pisteitä, vaikka tieteellisesti eivät pärjäisikään ulosjääville  kansainvälisille julkaisuille. Olisi hyvä saada tällainen "positiivinen  kannuste" myös Open Science ja Open Data julkaisuille. Vaikka sitten  saisi julkaisustaan ne huippupisteet kansainvälisestä maksullisesta  journalista, niin samalla datan ja muun julkaisu muualla toisi  lisäpisteitä... 
• Open science-menetelmiä ja välineitä voisi ottaa käyttöön Aallon  sisäisinä palveluina. Tarvitaan ennenkaikkea helppoja ja joustavia  ratkaisuja, joita on helppo ottaa käyttöön erilaisissa projekteissa ja  jopa opiskelijoiden opinnäytetöissä. Itselläni on intressiä pilotoida  tällaisia välineitä omassa projektissani - tilastodataa,  haastatteludataa, arkkitehtuurikaavioita jne.
• Aallon konsernitason nykyiset kehittämiskohteet keskittyvät lähinnä  hallintoon, eikä itse tieteen tekemiseen. Esimerkiksi  projektiohjeistukset liittyvät hallintobyrokratiaan sopimus- ja  rahoitustasolla. Itse projekteihin ei ole kunnon tukea. Tästä johtuen  myös sopimustason ohjeistus on heikkotasoista, koska se ei ota huomioon  itse tiedettä. Olisi hyvä saada ohjeistusta itse tieteen tekemiseen  projektimaisesti - ja sisäänrakentaa tänne avoimuutta tukevia  ominaisuuksia.