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mobile-workshop
Agenda 20th Feb 2017
solar panels electricity - Darren to make a design for panel attachments, sonia and gonzo to work on it thursday get glue, threaded inserts, bolts, fuse box, low voltage cut out, step down 24-12,
bank account - gonzo to fill out form, darren to ask sam about address
doing stuff - gonzo to do fb stuff
contact Daz will talk to her...
Agenda 10th November 2016 fromhttp://piratepad.net/tt-gt
(previous meetings are at https://travellingtoolbox.piratenpad.de/meeting-pad
What do we all want to do?
Trailer - where does it go?
Redpig or Reading (explore possibilities)
Logistics
Hopefully Darren will move it in the next couple of weeks
Money
Sonia to look into free community bank accounts. Scotty to transfer £600 (all the money?) to darren
Think they are called community accounts - its for an unincorporated organisation
Brighton?
Scotty will take metal work tools & use TT money to buy materials then repay once paid for workshop.j
Travelling Toolbox / Greentech
Scotty is leaving TT and TT/Greentech are splitting
This (below) is some text cut from http://www.greentechuk.org/wiki/view/Constitution
Objectives
Inspire, educate ourselves and others
Membership
We encourage diversity and participation in our membership
All members are committed to the rotation of roles and an ongoing process of skill-sharing.
Meetings
Members are committed to ensuring that any tasks taken on in meetings will, to the best of their ability, be undertaken and completed within the allotted time-scale.
Dissolution:
- If Greentech is wound up or dissolved and after all its liabilities have been satisfied there remains any property it shall not be paid to or distributed among the members of Greentech but shall be given or transferred to some other not for profit organisation chosen by the members.
Comms
AGENDA for meet 6/6/15
Agenda
- Call Out
- Action: send callout to rtf (sonia) + lwa (darren) lists
- 1st project together - Goldenhill community garden (burner workshop) http://thegoldenhillcommunitygarden.com/, Reclaim the Fields (set up and potential workshops) https://we.riseup.net/groups/rtf-uk/pages#/, Bex's (unknown..)
- Actions: find out more about rtf gathering and post back (sonia), wait for Sam's friend to get back to us about GH, Clarify what could happen at Beckx, We have various bits of machinery which need work, but ideally I would like to go down the l'atalier paysan triangle route which might be a bit much as a first shot at something, but would be good to be on the list. In France at the event there we adapated nine pieces of machinery in a day, and that was with probably ten guys, most of whom were competent and just getting on with stuff. For info - we're on the Norflk/Suffolk border, check us out at www.greengrow.org.uk.
- Sah hi to Heather and Atara for me if they are still about.
- Order of things, i.e. get a trailer with our kit then take it to a project, or just run up somewhere to do a project first?
- for trailer and try to organise builds order it happens doesnt matter too much
Start some funding applications (Sonia to ask bex for help), sustainable city funding (scotty) - yes happy to help with funding applications [bex]
- next meeting? Proposed date Tues 21, 7 in the evening, becks, Sam can you make that one?or we could do another day that week (other than Wednesday) if you can't. Yes, i can do that, although my kids will still be up and around and I might have to nip down to deal with stuff.
Travelling Toolbox - Project Overview / Discussion
- Mobille Project Vehicle / Trailer?
Juat to say that when I was over in France last week the AP guys were really keen to give us support or advice on what would be good to have. Their kit was really good and comprehensive - band saw, chop saw, stick welders and units, lots of three phase cabling with a mobile distribution unit; multiple sets of welding masks, gloves, hammers, wire brushes etc etc. I still have the full list of what kit they think we need . And they were very lovely :) [beckx]
Darren has some contacts that may be able to help source a trailer.
Should we get aDedicated tow vehicle? (I suggest not initially - see how things go - how oftenis it used?? can hire tow motor if necessay)
Criteria for trailer
3.5 tonnes max (worth considering 2.5 tonne - towable by a larger number of vehicles, only non HGVs that can legally tow 3.5 tonne are big(long wheel base) 4x4s )
~20ft
need to be able to stand in it
Twin axle, old catering unit might be something to look for.
</=£2K??
Added bonuses
Awning (not too hard to string a tarp up but obviously nice if its there)
Side opening
(suggest we could use a flat trailer and put box from transit or similar on it)
Getting a transit box in the 20' category could be quite difficult.
- What we want to achieve with the workshop?
Farm tools only? Or other events? - I like the idea of other events/uses - in support of small scale / community project
s (that would be cool - rocking up and making things for community growing projects would go down really well and extend what people are exposed to, as well as being useful. Can also link with social centres/more urban stuff yeah ++++, would like to see links with social projects as week as growing projects.
Geographic scope - Regional or National? INTERNATIONAL ++ (well start national - being able to stash different sets of kit in different regions would be nice but guess we'd have to scale to that over time) that's what wheels are for surely.
- What we want to do to get the funding
Proposal text - https://pad.okfn.org/p/mw-proposed-idea
Funding Sources - https://pad.okfn.org/p/mw-funding-sources - having had a quick look through these the only one which looks like it might be a goer is the Jephcott Trust one - we wouldn't qualify for many of the others because we're not a charity - it provides capital costs of up to £10,000 in most cases (which suggests that the form isn't too onerous to fill in) - we would probably best qualify under their Education heading. Having said all that, they have a fairly dodgy history, as their money comes from Glaxo pharmacueticals. Am happy to have a look at the form and see if it's worth trying for if people think it's a good idea [beckx]
Donations?
Sonia has offered to put in 2000 to get things rolling
Crowdfunding?
http://ignitiondeck.com/id/10-crowdfunding-secrets/
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jasonchua/sparklab-an-educational-build-mobile/description
Be good to get a video, Greentech has photo's of workshops we've run we can do some filming at Barncamp
Sonia suggested we could possibly do something at Red PIg Farm - alhtougn it might not be ideal. red piggers went mental. could still happen if scrivs etc get money. unlkely and not until autumn at earliest
Confirmed that we can do it in Holtsfield
Did Sam say something about his place???
- What Wiki to use for organising?
http://farmhack.org/wiki/mobile-workshop? or something else?
- What we can be doing physically in the meantime / job delegation/task list
look for trailer
- everyone - post details to this pad
make kit list of what we have already https://pad.okfn.org/p/mw-existing_tools
and what we would want to have in the trailer
beckx will carry on looking for grant funding both for the physical stuff, and for paying for delivering workshops to particular places/to particular groups
work out what skills we have in the group, and does that match up to the jobs which need doing-doing
Finalise a mission statement or something similar https://pad.okfn.org/p/mw-proposed-idea
and start the total propaganda war when this is done.
- draft letter to send to growers/farmers/land projects asking if they are interested in services, if they could pay, do they have a bit of room where we could stash the trailer sometimes? Could they donate atools/trailer/box
- Set up social media and start to make connections
- Identify people/groups on social media that would be likely to support and have large networks.
- Apparently asking for permission to spam facebook groups works well for promotion (advice from Daniel http://solarflower.org )
Get a name https://pad.okfn.org/p/mw-proposed-idea
Look for insurance quotes (maybe ask people doing something similarish where they get their insurance???) look into options for - insure workers of incorporated organisation only and for doing education. The green woodworkers organisation/association that does the bodgers ball has a very cheap deal for their memebrs to teach woodworking - could we use that? or who provides their insurance?
Metalwork - x2.5
Off Grid Electrics - x3+1/2+1
Carpentry - x1-2(ish)3+1
Links to possible trailers
Boxes & Chassis
both these in Devon - looks like they should fit together.....
Dreammode & Inspiration
https://hacktionlab.org/hacktionlab/index.php/BarnCamp_2015
- Crowd sourcing / networking
Getting non-money support. Equipment / time / collaborators
Possible avenues for sites to get involved with projects / run workshops and demonstartions paid or for mutual aid.
- List of places where we could keep it?
Probably could be kept at Sams for a few weeks at a time
Yard in Cinderford, Forest of Dean £5/week